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So let me just hijack this thread a little bit! As i've said in another thread my current fleet is my personal ship an M7 an M7M and 3 M2, Im in the top fighting ranks and real close to a huge battle, so, how im a suppose to use them all? I've been kinda of a lone wolf till now... but I really don't get whats the most efficient way, putting all together in a wing?
How do you normally do? How to instruct them to fire missiles? Yeah on of my first attempts they got destroyed and failed to launch any of those nice hornets and tornados.
Thanks and sorry
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tstoff
Fightguey (6)
Fightguey (6)
Posted 10 years ago.
"a nation who forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten"
redheart
Eagleguey (11)
Eagleguey (11)
Posted 10 years ago.
Hey Tstoff, I had the same problem when I was playing TC, and I asked RandomTank how he controlled his fleet and here is his answer. (Remember this was from Terran Conflict, but it should apply here.)
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RandomTank, How do you control all those ships in your fleet?
Simple my boy! I'll put in list form, to make it easier:
The Panther: Is piloted by me, so no commands needed.
The Tiger: Is set to the 'Protect Me' Command, and has the Auto-jump capability on, set to minimum jumps 1. This means he'll follow me around, and jump into any sector I do 10 seconds after me; if I encounter anything heavy, I'll just switch to this Tiger via Transporter, kill what I need to, a leave the Panther where it was to launch fighters (or move it if needs be).
The 2 Heavy Dragons: Are set up with the same commands as the Tiger, so they just follow me around too, and shoot what I shoot. I never really switch to them though, I don't need to.
The 10 Solanos: These are all assembled into Gold Wing, I have them equipped with full shields, 6 Mass Drivers and Automatic Resupply of 50 Crates of MD ammo and 15 Mosquito Missiles (for Missile Defense Mosquito/MDM) each (That fills 101 spaces out of their 102 unit cargo bay!). All I do is use the 'Attack(Choose Target)' Wing Command, as that launches all Solanos at the same time and they all attack the same target, then they move onto any other nearby enemies.
The 6 Nova Raiders: These are all assembled into Red Wing, I have them equipped with full shields, 4 HEPT, 4 PRG, and a PRG in the Turret (set on Smart: Defense); set for an Automatic Resupply of 20 Mosquito Missiles (for MDM) and 10 Tempests, with a 5% Missile Fire Chance and Smart: Main Guns in the Additional Commands. I usually set these on 'Protect Me' Wing Command, and as they are Fighters they will dock at the Panther (their Homebase), and when any enemy comes within about 10km, they all launch and attack; if I see a group of angry M6's or a nasty M7 that needs killing, I'll set these to the 'Attack(Choose Target)' Wing Command, and they'll go kill it/give me supporting fire.
The 3 Blastclaw Protos: I never use these in combat, I purely use these after the battle is done to collect the loot; I could jump in a few freighters, but I like these as they can deal with a few M5's or M4's that could be straggling about, and are fast with a Massive cargo bay!
Having the fighters set up into Wings is the part that really cut down on orders; I can get my entire fleet active and fighting in roughly 2 orders; to put them away is usually 1 order as the Novas dock by themselves when the enemies have gone, and no need for stocking up fighters with missiles and ammo, it does it all automagically! If you have escort fighters or some mounted in TM's or any other sort of Carrier, immediately organise them into wings, it saves sooooo much hassle, and it's soooooo quick and easy.
You have some money and an Elephant don't you? I have an idea for you if you do...
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I hope this helps with your question. I am sure someone will pop in and give correction for this being AP but I think its the same process.
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RandomTank, How do you control all those ships in your fleet?
Simple my boy! I'll put in list form, to make it easier:
The Panther: Is piloted by me, so no commands needed.
The Tiger: Is set to the 'Protect Me' Command, and has the Auto-jump capability on, set to minimum jumps 1. This means he'll follow me around, and jump into any sector I do 10 seconds after me; if I encounter anything heavy, I'll just switch to this Tiger via Transporter, kill what I need to, a leave the Panther where it was to launch fighters (or move it if needs be).
The 2 Heavy Dragons: Are set up with the same commands as the Tiger, so they just follow me around too, and shoot what I shoot. I never really switch to them though, I don't need to.
The 10 Solanos: These are all assembled into Gold Wing, I have them equipped with full shields, 6 Mass Drivers and Automatic Resupply of 50 Crates of MD ammo and 15 Mosquito Missiles (for Missile Defense Mosquito/MDM) each (That fills 101 spaces out of their 102 unit cargo bay!). All I do is use the 'Attack(Choose Target)' Wing Command, as that launches all Solanos at the same time and they all attack the same target, then they move onto any other nearby enemies.
The 6 Nova Raiders: These are all assembled into Red Wing, I have them equipped with full shields, 4 HEPT, 4 PRG, and a PRG in the Turret (set on Smart: Defense); set for an Automatic Resupply of 20 Mosquito Missiles (for MDM) and 10 Tempests, with a 5% Missile Fire Chance and Smart: Main Guns in the Additional Commands. I usually set these on 'Protect Me' Wing Command, and as they are Fighters they will dock at the Panther (their Homebase), and when any enemy comes within about 10km, they all launch and attack; if I see a group of angry M6's or a nasty M7 that needs killing, I'll set these to the 'Attack(Choose Target)' Wing Command, and they'll go kill it/give me supporting fire.
The 3 Blastclaw Protos: I never use these in combat, I purely use these after the battle is done to collect the loot; I could jump in a few freighters, but I like these as they can deal with a few M5's or M4's that could be straggling about, and are fast with a Massive cargo bay!
Having the fighters set up into Wings is the part that really cut down on orders; I can get my entire fleet active and fighting in roughly 2 orders; to put them away is usually 1 order as the Novas dock by themselves when the enemies have gone, and no need for stocking up fighters with missiles and ammo, it does it all automagically! If you have escort fighters or some mounted in TM's or any other sort of Carrier, immediately organise them into wings, it saves sooooo much hassle, and it's soooooo quick and easy.
You have some money and an Elephant don't you? I have an idea for you if you do...
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I hope this helps with your question. I am sure someone will pop in and give correction for this being AP but I think its the same process.
RandomTank
Assoguey (17)
Assoguey (17)
Posted 10 years ago.
I thought that post looked familiar... 
Right. You don't want to put all your M2s in one wing (yet), the best thing to do is to have each Destroyer escorted by a few M7s, and then make each Destroyer the lead of each wing (with the M7s protecting it); this means the Destroyer and its Escorts will stay and work together, but you can operate each Destroyer Wing independently. Fully stocked M1's can go by themselves, but an Escort never hurts (even if its just a few M6's). A M7M will usually sit at the back of the field alone; it won't need much support, but a few M6's or a Flak Frigate around it you can't go far wrong, but there isn't much point putting them into in a wing. They introduced Fleets in AP, which you add all your wings together, and allows you to control all of them with some simple commands (which cuts out A LOT of time!)
As for ships, I've always found that Destroyers don't kill fighters very well (and aren't really designed to), so as I said earlier, a few escort M7s work wonders, especially ones that can mount lots of Flak. One 'squadron' I love using is a Boreas/Mega supported by Griffons, as they are tiny so they don't really muck up the collision detection as much (which big M7s like the Panther and Cerberus do a lot), and they pack quite a punch for a long time! And another bonus, they carry 9 fighters per, so no carrier needed! As for escorting an M7M or M1, there is basically nothing better than a Cerberus, as speed/maneuverability doesn't matter so much, it has good shielding, a great generator and loadsa Flak/CIG. What M2s and M7s have you already got by the way?
Missiles are controlled from the Command Console, just raise the fire chance percentage to an appropriate figure (30% isn't bad if you actually want them to kill stuff with missiles), but I don't know how which missiles it fires is chosen, so one type per ship is a safe bet. Tempests are great for NPC ships, as sometimes they launch them at stupid targets, but Tempests Re-lock, so saving waste. Also, I would never let NPCs use dumb fires, as they will NEVER hit (even a Tornado!)
Right. You don't want to put all your M2s in one wing (yet), the best thing to do is to have each Destroyer escorted by a few M7s, and then make each Destroyer the lead of each wing (with the M7s protecting it); this means the Destroyer and its Escorts will stay and work together, but you can operate each Destroyer Wing independently. Fully stocked M1's can go by themselves, but an Escort never hurts (even if its just a few M6's). A M7M will usually sit at the back of the field alone; it won't need much support, but a few M6's or a Flak Frigate around it you can't go far wrong, but there isn't much point putting them into in a wing. They introduced Fleets in AP, which you add all your wings together, and allows you to control all of them with some simple commands (which cuts out A LOT of time!)
As for ships, I've always found that Destroyers don't kill fighters very well (and aren't really designed to), so as I said earlier, a few escort M7s work wonders, especially ones that can mount lots of Flak. One 'squadron' I love using is a Boreas/Mega supported by Griffons, as they are tiny so they don't really muck up the collision detection as much (which big M7s like the Panther and Cerberus do a lot), and they pack quite a punch for a long time! And another bonus, they carry 9 fighters per, so no carrier needed! As for escorting an M7M or M1, there is basically nothing better than a Cerberus, as speed/maneuverability doesn't matter so much, it has good shielding, a great generator and loadsa Flak/CIG. What M2s and M7s have you already got by the way?
Missiles are controlled from the Command Console, just raise the fire chance percentage to an appropriate figure (30% isn't bad if you actually want them to kill stuff with missiles), but I don't know how which missiles it fires is chosen, so one type per ship is a safe bet. Tempests are great for NPC ships, as sometimes they launch them at stupid targets, but Tempests Re-lock, so saving waste. Also, I would never let NPCs use dumb fires, as they will NEVER hit (even a Tornado!)
I will be the one to take you down!
tstoff
Fightguey (6)
Fightguey (6)
Posted 10 years ago.
Okey thanks! That's some nice set of ideas and insight for my future challenges.
Ill try it tomorrow and see how this goes:))
Ill try it tomorrow and see how this goes:))
"a nation who forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten"
redheart
Eagleguey (11)
Eagleguey (11)
Posted 10 years ago.
Hey, Im back now. Lol. Had to take time away as I got a wonderful new job, played Starcraft 2, played most of Borderlands 2 and beat Metro LL. I am now wanting to make my ship army. Get ready for some more questions!!!
Spent the first 20 minutes trying to remember what I was doing and where everything was....
Spent the first 20 minutes trying to remember what I was doing and where everything was....
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