Shhhh....I'm Hunting Carrack

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cjm3fl

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Posted 12 years ago.

So I already capped 4 Carrack (M7) to date.
I'm heading down to Third Redemption sector to move my TL fleet into Gunne's Crusade to build a missile complex.

Well there's this Pirate Carrack flying around Third Redemption just BEGGING to be capped.

Who am I to ignore such a sincere request?


I'll post my success, emm...I mean...how it goes, when I'm done.

It's not what someone has done..it's about what they are about to do!
cjm3fl

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Posted 12 years ago.

OK.
Got it. My 5th Carrack.

Lost none of the marines.
A good number increased their 'fighting' skills to boot.

For some reason, a Paranid Deimos got pissed at me.
No other ships turned red...at first.
I contacted and apologized for any misgivings and they were excepted...but it stayed red.

Then the bitch...I mean Paranid captain launched fighters which were red.
I contacted each and apologized (made my stomach turn) until they turned blue.

The Deimos remained red and was heading toward me and the new Carrack.
I jumped out of the sector. I checked the sector remotely...the Deimos turned blue.

When I jumped back, the Deimos was blue...but some dipsh...emm, dumb skipper hit my ship and blew himself up.
His companion tanker turned red!

HEY!!!
I didn't hit his buddy...his buddy ran into me!


Anyway, after some time...and distance, the tanker turned blue.

All right. A new Carrack. Her name is the Vengance.

It's not what someone has done..it's about what they are about to do!
PuppyOfWar

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Posted 12 years ago.

You're really smooth with the locals, aren't you? Hint: with X-interpersonal skills like that, don't try for politician. You're definitely a politics-by-other-means kinda guy.

"Ambassador cjm3fl, how did things go in negotiations with the representatives from Family Rhonkar?"

"Great! I got the drop on them and killed 5 of them before they even got to the door. Only 1 escaped."

You're definitely the man for the job, when it's time to revoke a treaty.

"Ambassador cjm3fl! So good to see you! We got your message that you wanted to discuss continued business with our organization?"

BLAM!!! BLAMBLAMBLAM! BLAM!!!

(To the remaining Split ambassador) "Tell your boss our relationship has been terminated."

Kirlack

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Posted 12 years ago.

Hah! PPC diplomacy. It's the only way to get them to take you seriously Big grin

Congrats on another successful capture cjm3fl!

Just a thought, have you tried the Carrack as a tool for subjugating other capture worthy targets? It makes a good alternative to the Griffon, albeit with only half the shielding. But being able to mount Ion-Ds in every slot makes it great for frying out those weapons and security systems you want to avoid.

Madder than a Bastard on fathers day.
My DiDs: Peace(s) of Eight - Way of the Gun - Status: Online, A Xenon DiD
Roguey

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Posted 12 years ago.

What sort-of role do you use the Carrack for? anti-fighter?

cjm3fl

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Posted 12 years ago.

What sort-of role do you use the Carrack for? anti-fighter?
- Roguey

I haven't seen them fire on any ships, just mine while I'm capping them.
This last one was flying around the sector alone. Flying from one Gate to another Gate, then back again.
It was 'red'. No Paranid military ships were attacking it. Makes me wonder about those 3-eyed cretins!


Youre really smooth with the locals, arent you?
- PuppyOfWar

Apparently not. I think I should buy that Hornet Missile factory I want pretty quick.

Hint: with X-interpersonal skills like that, dont try for politician. Youre definity a politics-by-other-means kinda guy.
- PuppyOfWar

Ahh. I thought I was doing good with my politics.
Guess I keep doing my negotiations at the end of an ISR.

Youre definitely the man for the job, when its time to revoke a treaty.
- PuppyOfWar

You say the nicest things!

Just a thought, have you tried the Carrack as a tool for subjugating other capture worthy targets?
- Kirlack

I haven't used a second ship in any of my captures. All the Carracks were gotten by my Cobra. Any M6's and M3's and M4's were left abandoned after a battles while in my Tiger. I just picked up another 'L' after attacking a Xenon patrol fleet.

But it's an interesting thought.

It's not what someone has done..it's about what they are about to do!
Roguey

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Posted 12 years ago.

Well I always wanted to board an Carrack as my first M7, however with all its anti-fighter guns it makes it very hard to board in like a TP or a M6. So usually get to board it with an M7M however at that time as so useful. Doesnt it have a rather good weapon coverage too? so no sneaking up on it.

Kirlack

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Posted 12 years ago.

Yeah, the Carrack, like its big brother the Brigantine, has excellent turret coverage. I boarded my first one using an ION equipped HCP to strip and subdue it, then podded in the troops from the safety of my Ares Big grin Took a bit of fancy flying to survive the strip stage, but it was worth it. Carracks are rather agile too, for an M7.

Madder than a Bastard on fathers day.
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Roguey

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Posted 12 years ago.

Looks like ill have to get some things ready and go hunting for Carrack too. I have got to the point where 20+ marines are ready on a TP. My M7 has 10 Ion's ready - so I can strip a ship of weapons then send in my TP to do the boarding. Its not the best way but until I get a M7M with a missile complex it will have to do. btw, im playing X3AP - not X3TC (but the ship is the same).

cjm3fl

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Posted 12 years ago.

I've used a pair of Carracks in neighboring sectors.
They had no problems keeping the "pirate problem" down.
Perfect ships for getting rid of those pesky pirate fighters.

I haven't flown one personally yet.
Maybe I'll fly one this weekend...give it a test-drive.

It's not what someone has done..it's about what they are about to do!
cjm3fl

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Posted 12 years ago.

What sort-of role do you use the Carrack for? anti-fighter?
- Roguey

Sorry Roguey...misread your post the first time.
I personally use them as sector patrol ships right now. Add a pair of Skiron (M6) or Heavy Dragon (M6) and you have a pretty powerful force.
I will use a pair as escort for my carrier when I get her.
All of mine are 'armed' for anti-fighter use. I can see a pair of them making easy work of a few M6's.
They can carry heavier weapons like IBL's, but with the low amount of shielding they carry I wouldn't send less then 4 against larger targets.
I can also see them being very useful escorting M2's, M7M's, or other M7's.

I capped my 5th one in the Paranid sector of Third Redemption.
Yesterday, I found another 'red' Carrack flying around Third Redemption. Too tempting of a target, so I took it.

First attempt I lost 15 marines but the ship carried 8 ILB's. But that was too high of a price for me to pay.
Re-started, capped it again...lost no marines but the ship had very little left on-board.

My first 2 are the Reliance and the Resolute.
My next pair are the Confidence and Courageous.
My newest pair are the Vengeance and, now, the Victorious.

All of mine are armed with 6 CIG's up front for so 'hitting power', a pair of PRG's aft for missile defense.
There are 2 FAA's and 2 HEPT's on each the right and left turrets.
I have a pair of HEPT's in the bottom turret but I'm thinking of changing these to a pair of EBC or PRG's.
All Carracks carry 20 Thunderbolts and 20 Wasp missiles.

I am open to any suggestions for a different anti-fighter weapons' configuration.

The last 2 Carracks that I've capped are the first ones I've seen outside the sectors of, and between, Maelstrom and Gaian Star. Both of these were not being escorted but there were other 'red' pirate ships in the sector.

It's not what someone has done..it's about what they are about to do!
Roguey

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Posted 12 years ago.

hmm.. does mixing HEPT's with FAA's help? as I normally just fill up the FAA slots with flaks, as to me they are better than HEPT's.

cjm3fl

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Posted 12 years ago.

My main reason for mixing a pair of each in the left and right turrets is that I don't have that many FAA's.
I (almost) have enough FAA's and CFA'a to fit out the right and left turrets of the 6 Carracks with 3 FAA's and a CFA.

I picked HEPT's for their lower energy use...and I have so many of these they are falling out of my pockets.

**side note** It may be time to think about building some weapons complexes.
FAA's, CFA's, and CIG's are nearly impossible to locate in my game.
The individual factories are all gone.
There aren't as many 'mix-use' factories that build them, as there used to be.
Equipment Docks and Military Outposts rarely have any of these weapons available.

It's not what someone has done..it's about what they are about to do!
Kirlack

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Posted 12 years ago.

I wouldn't worry about CFA, just build FAA instead. They're the better weapon, in my opinion. Did you know Ion beams can 'jump' across CFA bullets? And they spread quite a way. If your enemy has Ions CFA can hurt. Lots.

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cjm3fl

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Posted 12 years ago.

I didn't know that about the CFA. Thanks for the heads-up.

I'm presently working on HUB complexes and missile complexes.
I'll have to squeeze in a weapons' facility or two.

Besides arming all guns in the left and right turrets with FAA's, any other anti-fighter suggestions for the Carracks?

It's not what someone has done..it's about what they are about to do!
Kirlack

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Posted 12 years ago.

I find PRG to be a good light anti fighter weapon, due to decent range and fast bullet speed. If you put s few of those on the turrets that can't mount Flak they'll kill the M5s and aggro the M3s so they fly into flak range. Other than that, Hurricane missiles for the M5s and Tempests for the M3s, but those are my fave way of dealing with fighters from any ship Wink

Madder than a Bastard on fathers day.
My DiDs: Peace(s) of Eight - Way of the Gun - Status: Online, A Xenon DiD
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