What do you think of X Rebirth?

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Roguey

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Posted 10 years ago.

hmm.. ive been looking around to see what else there has been, and im surprised how little new information has surfaced. In the convention wasnt there a couple of machines running a demo of the game? All ive seen is a few German videos; which either contained stuff ive already seen in other videos or a look at the graphic setting page (which isnt all that exciting). Although being in German isnt all that helpful.

rhohltjr

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Posted 10 years ago.



So again, like I said, there will be no complete stable release of Rebirth this year.
- BarrenEarth


After viewing the newest GC video I agree. I am now actually glad they have another 3 months to tune some things,
then in November we customers can move on to gamma, epsilon,....zeta testing for Egosoft:ban-win. We've done it before with
other X game releases. Maybe it will allow us to work on our money making strategies. Bad thing is if subsequent patches will require restarts. ... hate when that happens. Cuss

X-Rebirth is released and there was much rejoicing. Obamacare website developers point and proclaim "Yes, the website and UCA sucks, but we're not the worst,...no, not the worst anymore."
AlphanInfidel

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Posted 10 years ago.

Won't be rebuilding the machine for something that's not really working yet, but as the rebuild is an eventuality ... lack of readiness just delays the inevitable.
@rhohltjr ......... I can't count to Omega.

I am an Alien!
BarrenEarth

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Posted 10 years ago.

OMG... 2D space. That is right folks they put everything on a plane which X3 was sorta like but they took it to the next level to help with AI autopilot. So now your ship always levels out and you will never guess which way is up. This game was designed for the Xbox1 people.

BarrenEarth

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Posted 10 years ago.

Well Gamescom is done. There was no new info, the demo was very stripped down. Egosoft employees "arsaneus", Bernd and others have confirmed that the game is not ready for demo yet. The Highways are currently broken and they are working on fixing that for release. The Capitals are being tweaked, and no you cant command them yourself, just give commands and watch the action. And the models are not a priority so expect them to look stupid at launch. Also, no direct trading, plot is mandatory for upgrades to the Skunk and Drones through VR are only usable in space from the cockpit of the Skunk.

Basically, Egosoft failed to deliver anything they promised at Gamescom and are setting us up for a limited release with patches for content and promise features later. This is a disaster.

Zipmeister

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Posted 10 years ago.

The cockpit view and "Here's the ship you're stuck with" has me wondering if this will be a very pretty shadow of it's predecessors.
OMG... 2D space. That is right folks they put everything on a plane which X3 was sorta like but they took it to the next level to help with AI autopilot. So now your ship always levels out and you will never guess which way is up. This game was designed for the Xbox1 people.
- BarrenEarth

Sounds a lot like freelancer.
Even Freelancer has a selection of ships and Multi-player.
This sweeping trend of console-ised over-simplified crap that started with bad Xbox live ports and has swept through the gaming industry has me concerned. The trailers don't do anything to ease my fears. Show me a boarding and capture interface. Maybe functionality will all be DLC. Hopefully Egosoft comes forward with more info.
What I'm seeing isn't too promising... Or is it promising too much and not delivering...

BarrenEarth

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Posted 10 years ago.

DLC... the paid improvement of a game through patches and add-ons....

If DLC is needed to make this a complete game I sure as hell ain't spending $50 on it just to spend $5 here and there to make it functional. Egosoft can go to hell if they think DLC is the route to save this game, but I suppose it was mentioned by Bernd last year that DLC paid content was in the works.

Hammerit

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Posted 10 years ago.

To be honest I won't buy the game at least for a while. I liked the first information they released, but the more information came out the less the concept appealed to me. It just doesn't sound like a X anymore. Quite frankly I'm not convinced ES can actually pull off a game along the lines of Freelancer / Freespace. Something like that requires sound controls, an engaging plot and really good balancing. In the past ES has never been good at any of these things.

Don't get me wrong I love the X series as well as Freelancer / Freespace, but for very different reasons. X2+ has always been more of an economy simulation sandbox for me. The plots merely served as a rather elaborate tutorial with bad voice acting and mostly tedious tasks to get the sandbox started. Eg. Final Fury: doing the same darn escort mission 7 times in a row is just plain ridiculous.

It says a lot if someone like me who loves RPGs tries to get the plots out of the way as soon as possible. But there's simply no fun in gathering a few hundred units of a ware that simply doesn't exist anywhere in halfway acceptable quantities because GOD usually kills all plot ware relevant factories quite early on if you take your time. And having to build factories just because GOD doesn't like you making progress sounds weirdly blasphemous...

Once the game is cheaper and the worst bugs have been ironed out I'll probably give it a chance. But until then I just don't really see much of a point.

rhohltjr

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Posted 10 years ago.

Can someone explain the following to me(communications w/npcs....)

theeclownbroze wrote:
It's like skyrim but you can play a little minigame in between sentences to get information you otherwise couldn't get

the mini game is a small Audio channel and a sliding bar which osculates back and fourth and a static bar which you need to target, this i guess happens when you talk to NPC's aboard stations and in space but talking to your own managers, personel etc etc probably won't use this mini game and will be like sky rim when talking to characters and a more user friendly command interface
Whatever Undecided

I don't know what skyrim is. I asked if this communication method is locked in stone, but was ignored.
I don't understand the concept of playing a game in order to communicate!!!
Can one of you rational types help me out here? Eat a truth cookie then educate me:)

X-Rebirth is released and there was much rejoicing. Obamacare website developers point and proclaim "Yes, the website and UCA sucks, but we're not the worst,...no, not the worst anymore."
rhohltjr

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Posted 10 years ago.

OMG... 2D space. That is right folks they put everything on a plane which X3 was sorta like but they took it to the next level to help with AI autopilot. So now your ship always levels out and you will never guess which way is up. This game was designed for the Xbox1 people.
- BarrenEarth


Pity. I bought an xbox entirely to continue with the Halo series. When I venture forth with Halo I always go through a lot of obcenities Cuss about the controllers. They are NOT keyboard/mouse/trackball/joysticks, not even close. I tried to use an xbox controller on x3 once Cuss. Xbox controller ability is not a selling point for me for rebirth.

X-Rebirth is released and there was much rejoicing. Obamacare website developers point and proclaim "Yes, the website and UCA sucks, but we're not the worst,...no, not the worst anymore."
BarrenEarth

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Posted 10 years ago.

OMG... 2D space. That is right folks they put everything on a plane which X3 was sorta like but they took it to the next level to help with AI autopilot. So now your ship always levels out and you will never guess which way is up. This game was designed for the Xbox1 people.- BarrenEarth

Pity. I bought an xbox entirely to continue with the Halo series. When I venture forth with Halo I always go through a lot of obcenities about the controllers. They are NOT keyboard/mouse/trackball/joysticks, not even close. I tried to use an xbox controller on x3 once . Xbox controller ability is not a selling point for me for rebirth.

- rhohltjr


No the xbox controller feature is actually a turn off to me as well.

Add to the list of bad moves is microtransactions. Bernd had stated that paid dlc from steam is the way of the future and he didn't like it. So asked in the AMA he said there is no plans for paid DLC "YET" but that expansions would be "Albion Prelude" style where you pay for them.

Hence, they are releasing a game under pressure from the distributor, that is not yet feature complete or polished and then asking us to pay for the expansions to add things that were promised three years ago.

Good night Egosoft, nice knowing you. Hopefully someone with a brain can employ your developers and make a decent new space game...

RolanDecoy

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Posted 10 years ago.

I hate it when another perfectly good series is shredded to pieces to make it playable by people with controllers...never understood why companies would target such platforms as primary over the PC, so many limitations. "But we can add new methods and stuff a lot more easily than port them for consoles." - Ya, but in reality most methods and stuff never get added at all...

That, along with the other commentaries makes me want to hold off this purchase. Maybe in a year or so I might reconcider...but I will try it...at some point...

BarrenEarth

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Posted 10 years ago.

I hate it when another perfectly good series is shredded to pieces to make it playable by people with controllers...never understood why companies would target such platforms as primary over the PC, so many limitations. "But we can add new methods and stuff a lot more easily than port them for consoles." - Ya, but in reality most methods and stuff never get added at all...

That, along with the other commentaries makes me want to hold off this purchase. Maybe in a year or so I might reconcider...but I will try it...at some point...

- RolanDecoy


Because despite what they keep saying over and over again, Egosoft is lying, This game was made from the ground up to be console driven, and probably the release of information 2 years ago to developers about the PS4 and XBOX 1 led to them reworking things.

I bet my second mortgage that Rebirth will be a console game in less than 18 months.

BarrenEarth

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Posted 10 years ago.

Oddly, everything said about modding this game just destroys any sense of anticipation for the game itself. I'm not looking forward to it like I should be. And I have a sense of dread that I will be binning the game after a week because it is like X3 and TC and unplayable without significant modifications that I wont be able to do this time.

Hmmm, maybe the cosmos is trying to tell me my game playing days are over. Theres a terrible thought.
- "apricotslice"


There is a terrible realization that not only is the modding of this game restricted to conditional events in a Mission Director style, but also that one of the top modders of all time just threw his hands up in disgust that people are expecting people like him to save them from this terrible game.

Kirlack

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Posted 10 years ago.

*sigh*

I've tried my best to remain objective of this release, but even I'm sick and tired of the general negativity now :/ I'm taking an extended break away from the X universe and all things relating to it for a while. See you all in 6 months when the game is released and people can actually offer some first hand experience.

Madder than a Bastard on fathers day.
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