Station Selling Issue

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Specoguey (14)

Posted 11 years ago.

I typically run through an asteroid field in a fighter, equipped with 8 IREs, and just shoot up all the rocks until they've broken up into collectible sizes (after having used an MDS or a Hornet missile to break up the map asteroid).

Once the debris field is set up, you don't need a laser equipped TS for mobile mining. Just any TS, equipped with Ore Collector, Special Command Software, Nav Command Software and a Mineral Scanner (all the gear a 'Miner' variant of any TS have pre-installed). Set the TS to 'collect rocks' as opposed to 'mine & trade minerals'. In the case that there is more than one mineral type, I usually drop a nav-sat above the debris field, marked with the name of the mineral I intend to mine.

Order your miner to the nav-sat, and then tell him to collect rocks. Now, eventually he'll fill up, so to let him carry on forever, assign a CLS piloted freighter to periodically pick up his load and deposit it wherever you need it Smile

There's another thread on these forums, one of Caffeeine's I believe, where I detail using CLS handlers for a mobile mining fleet Smile

Also, if I put an NPC station down in an unknown sector, that will attract more npc's to the area, so I would want to put these stations where?
- redheart

Wherever you like! If it is an unknown sector, you will see some NPC traffic, but you'll see that wherever you drop your factory. Unless you have some reason not to allow NPC traffic (roleplaying reasons perhaps?), it doesn't make any difference Smile

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Eagleguey (11)

Posted 11 years ago.

Well...I have um.."questionable" factories in a certain unknown sector and if I place a NPC station in the same sector I want to make sure that the police, boarder patrol or military doesnt stumble onto my operations. Thanks for the info Kirlack on the mining, yea I will need to break up the main asteroids and then shoot down smaller...seems like a pain but it should provide more mineral then large mines can.

So there really isnt any way to have them mine mineral with out me is there? lol

Kirlack

Specoguey (14)

Posted 11 years ago.

No, race patrols have no say in what happens beyond their borders. Even if you had a 500 x Space Fuel Distillery L complex in an unknown sector, if an Argon patrol were to roll in, they have no reason (or right) to attack your factory.

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Kirlack

Specoguey (14)

Posted 11 years ago.

So there really isnt any way to have them mine mineral with out me is there? lol
- redheart

For the initial set up, you will have to be involved to an extent. After that though, a well organized mining fleet shouldn't require any player intervention.

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redheart

Eagleguey (11)

Posted 11 years ago.

Kirlack please tell me how they dont need my help. Dont I have to continue to break up the asteroids into sizes that they can pick up? While this is not that difficult to do it is kinda time consuming.

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Proguey (12)

Posted 11 years ago.

@ Redheart ....... As Kirlack points out above ........ No! A hornet or Mobile Drilling S. to start (plus a bit of shooting to speed things up) and you can leave the team you put there to carry on! I tend to return from time to time to help them, but I don't think that's a requirement.

I am an Alien!

redheart

Eagleguey (11)

Posted 11 years ago.

Oh ok, I understand now. So I spend a bit just busting up the asteroids and then it will take them a while to clean it all up so I just need to check on them once in a while. Sweet..Thank you Kirlack and AlphanInfidel.

Kirlack

Specoguey (14)

Posted 11 years ago.

Quick tip: If your mobile miner fleet is working OOS (Out Of Sector), then they can't ever clear up. The rocks don't count as being collected (no collision detection), but they still end up in your ships cargo bay Big grin

So, you can have 10 rock collectors, all collecting the same few pieces of rock, over and over, and over, and over...

...and over again Big grin

It's this small 'bug' that allows mobile mining fleets to supply the entire mineral requirements of the whole universe, probably with some to spare! Big grin

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redheart

Eagleguey (11)

Posted 11 years ago.

Omg...I wondered why they had not cleared up the mess I made but had filled all ships and the hub and home base......uh....wow...lol....

redheart

Eagleguey (11)

Posted 11 years ago.

Ok another issue I am having. Trying to capture a stolen centaur. I am using the Heavy I have with all Ion Disruptors but after I take down the shield I have a hard time stopping the weapons it has and then it just blows up either my Heavy or my TP. How do you disable the weapon system on the targets with out killing too much of the hull?

Kirlack

Specoguey (14)

Posted 11 years ago.

What's your Heavy Centaur equipped with? If it's just Ions you shouldn't be doing any damage to the target at all (maybe a percent or 2, but that's it). It can take a god awful amount of time to fry off a targets weapons though.

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AlphanInfidel

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Proguey (12)

Posted 11 years ago.

@Redheart....... I'm not as experienced at capping as the others seem to be ...... I run away hoping it follows, and repeat* as required. If you have turbo boost this 'Timid Tactic' is always possible! You can,of couse, throw a few missiles** at it so that the target's shields don't recover as well as yours do (I.D's are short range.) Additionally it often helps to be far away from any other action, so that other forces don't join in the fun or spam you! Tactics can evolve with choice of ship(I've got loads)/loadout(I've got loads)/flying ability(Not much)and lots more beside.

*The repeat part is because you have to hit them with the I.D's a LOT.
** Something small that hits often (e.g. Wasp) may also help reduce the targets defences.
Edit :- Just saw Kirlack's post ........ I guessed that you had other weapons going as well.

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Assoguey (17)

Posted 11 years ago.

Is it wrong that I have never used Ion's on a boarding Target? M6's I either deplete its shields with a decent M3, keep them down with Mk2 Fight Drones, then board from a TP (Angel for the win!); or just use one of my many Skirons to drop shields, launch marines and keep shields down by itself. Against anything bigger, I just use my Cobra that goes 155m/s (lol) to deplete shields with Hammers, launch marines in pods, and keep shields down with Flails. My Tiger and Panther both go 155m/s too, so I'm tempted to have the Cobra as an escort!

The power of 4 star + marines in Engineering, Mechanical, Hacking and Fight seems to break through any defense they can throw at me; all you have to do is find Carrack's with no Sentry Lasers to train your marines up to fight 4, and the others you can pay to train!

I will be the one to take you down!

redheart

Eagleguey (11)

Posted 11 years ago.

Ok I will try it a different way. I had the Heavy Centaur loaded out with all ID except for the right turret, that had EC. I thought that if I kept hitting it with the ID that it would kill the weapons, but I am wrong. The target would keep flying around and killing my marines as I have no cobra yet and was trying to train on a Carrack.

Ok new tactic. How do I keep the carack from attacking my TP though while it drops off the marines? I am so tempted to just save up and purchase a damn Cobra, but I swore I would not.

Thank you for the help.

Kirlack

Specoguey (14)

Posted 11 years ago.

Short answer: you don't. That's why you need to fry the guns off the target before sending the TP to get to work. You could, in theory at least, spam wasps at the target, and maybe throw some fighter drones out as well, to provide cover for your marines to reach the target, but you'll be hard pressed to keep the shields low on most ships with just wasps and drones Smile

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